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Illawarra religious leaders no closer to agreeing

20/11/2008 4:00:00 AM
An attempt to build bridges between religions in the Illawarra has soured with a prominent Jewish official accusing a Baptist clergyman of "disturbing" teachings.

NSW Jewish Board of Deputies chief Vic Alhadeff met with Illawarra Community Baptist Church pastor Kevin Harris last Thursday as part of a tour of the region to consult religious leaders.

On Monday this week Mr Alhadeff sent out a mass email quoting Pastor Harris, from the meeting, as saying Jews were "going to hell" and faced a fate "worse than the Holocaust".

Yesterday Mr Alhadeff said he was also concerned that Pastor Harris had given him a brochure containing an image of the Star of David with a skull in the middle.

"I found these teachings both disturbing and disconcerting in the extreme," he said.

Pastor Harris, who has worked in the Illawarra for nearly nine years, dismissed the claims, saying he had been "misquoted and misunderstood".

"He is taking some statements I made and material I gave him and making them look like something else," Pastor Harris said.

"I want to get the message out that we Christians do not hate anybody."

Pastor Harris said he never intended any offence and thought the meeting had gone well.

"It was meant to be a bridge-building meeting so I was surprised to have three journalists phone me yesterday after the email had been sent out," he said.

"From my perspective we had a good cordial talk, and we both understood that Christians and Orthodox Jews do not agree on the notion that Jesus is the Messiah."

Pastor Harris said his comments were taken from the Bible and not supposed to represent his personal views on any group.

"I did say all of us have sinned - Christians and Jews - and our sins condemn us to hell, that means every human being who does not receive Jesus as their Lord and saviour."

Pastor Harris said the Star of David image was one of many images in the brochure he gave to Mr Alhadeff.

"I support the written message in the brochure but I have no recollection of that particular image, which could have several meanings based on the Bible's teachings," he said.

Mr Alhadeff yesterday said he was no expert on the Bible, but he was still disturbed by the comments and material he received.

"My concern is that he is influencing others, and the import of what he is saying shows a lack of respect for people who do not profess the same faith as he does."

Mr Alhadeff said he did not accept Pastor Harris's explanation for the material containing an image of the Star of David with a skull in the centre.

"A skull is symbolic of death and it is disconcerting to see one at the centre of our religious symbol," he said.

"It fits with his clear message we received from him that we are destined to hell and that a terrible fate is awaiting us."

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What an appalling indictment of the Illawarra to have this so called Minister of religion handing out pamphlets containing Jew-hating imagery like the deaths head skull within the Star of David.

How would this Baptist minister enjoy it if he was handed images of Christ being hung upside-down on the cross with pagan imagery painted on his torso.

This is pure Jew hating propaganda and to had it over to a Jewish visitor and then try and blame him for being offended by it is disgraceful.


Posted by Apologise now Pastor on 20/11/2008 7:40:58 PM
Ahh religion. When you cant think for yourself.
Posted by manny on 20/11/2008 10:34:19 PM
Hello!

Please take a look at the image at http://www.ajn.com.au/ajn/uploads/files/story_attachment.pdf

and where the skull is in the context of Jesus' death, not Jews.

Disagreement is not hate.

I told Mr. Alhadeff that I would die to preserve his freedom to believe as he wishes.

But since he asked me what is our message, I shared that Jesus is the saviour from our sin.

"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ (Messiah) our Lord" (Romans 6:23). That's a message of great hope!

Posted by Pastor Harris on 21/11/2008 11:35:28 AM
What were the three no no's of polite conversation? Sex, Religion and Money, I seem to remember.
Posted by Fergie on 21/11/2008 12:06:50 PM
Everything needs to be taken in context.

The meaning of any statement can be distorted to a different light if put in different context.

This frequently happens to God's Word and is the same on this occasion.

This Pastor is not a Jew hater as purported by some.

See their Illawarra Community Baptist Church website in activities listed for 2008.

There is a Sunday service given over to the following (pasted from the site) " May 4, 2008......Bless Israel Sunday, Elective Series 1 at 10am"

This was held on the 60th anniversary of the establishment of the nation of Israel.

The recent history of Israel and their challenges ahead were discussed.

The tone throughout was very supportive.

I was not there, nor am I a member of this church but the above statement was given to me by friends who were there and are members.

They also said when questioned on the misunderstanding: "We can only summise that the Pastor's efforts to share the Biblical message that " all have sinned" (Jew and Gentile) and that" the wages of sin is death", and the necessity of trusting in the Lord Jesus, Israel's Messiah, to save us from sin's penalty has been misinterpreted".

Please remember things must be taken in context for a complete picture to be given.

Posted by S. Gumbley on 23/11/2008 4:16:30 PM

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